My friend, if the message they portayed in the documentary was a bit hard for you to digest, then let me do it this way. The Most Hated Family in America is a TV documentary written and presented by the BBC's Louis Theroux about the family at the heart of the Westboro Baptist Church. Excuse me but as a christian I have been taught that God loves everyone and teaches us to spread love. They have nothing good to give back to this society. (PARAPHRASED). Poor, poor people. They have a small congregation in a relatively rural area; how else could they afford to spend over $200,000 on traveling expenses per year alone. The difference in our arguments is I'm not making blanket statements about an entire group. watch all their kids be gay and lesbian... and did that for a living, a motivation for life, but I am sorry, I know, and you know, and you know that I know, that you would not take that as anything to do with freedom of speech. BUT only adults. Everyone should follow this example and create their own code to live by, not the crap everyone else might shove their way. Overall, their beliefs are no different to any of the other churches. Before he self-destructed, he was one of the best attorneys that ever appeared in Kansas courts and he won his cases. The video is a reflection of the inner unrest of a few Americans who are showing it publicly. I have looked at many of these blogs and I see a lot of people arguing on the word of God, saying that Louis Theroux did not do well when confronted by this family on the theology of God. Marrying the same sex was/is illegal and wrong, but so are drugs. ", if even Fox says they are sick, that means something ^^. My husband broke his neck from an IED in Afghanistan in November, and another marine in the vehicle died. You can JUSTIFY working in a WEAPONS MANUFACTORY? It's so sad to see this happen in the world.. Much more than your average wholesome individual. According to genesis mankind took from God the ability to choose between good and evil (free will) and its knowledge thereof by eating from the tree. they ARE really bad and hateful people. I'm pretty sure that he doesn't know what 2x2 equal. Help them find JESUS...He LOVES US ALL and WANTS US ALL TO BE SAVED!!! All they do is yell out horrible things at people for no reason and make their children do the same. Jesus said that meaning that God shows mercy and some level of favor to all men. They are protected under the Freedom of Speech and their "religion" is registered. Their message is not funny because it doesn't mean anything, and it's not personal. 100% pure unadulterated Child Abuse. Waltermckoy698. Amen...Thank JesusAllahBuddah these weirdos don't procreate. Im also a christian and found this very very wrong. The poor kid hated being there. I find the families spoon fed intolerance sad and disturbing. JESUS LOVES EVERYONE. I think the director was trying to make a point that teenagers do "normal" things such as going out and dating; whether it be dating men, women or both. Others at this site have also said he himself might be gay, but there is nothing good about that man. my finger is moved by my brain and my nervous system. Hell was concocted to keep people like you in a mind prison your entire life. .. Oh, sinner man .. Where you gonna run? In my opinion; science keeps inventing it's future, it goes from one conclusion to an other by way of an new idea. Thank God...they may serve or think they do a God of Vengence but it's his vengence not theirs and let him do it and not you. You have no idea what freedom of speech means. i am a collection of my memories and experiences. What you see as a problem with Christianity, I see as a blessing. Louis Theroux visits a run down area of Philadelphia as part of his Law and Disorder Series. lol open your eyes! 22 On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name?’ Then I will announce to them, ‘I never knew you! To be fair, our penal code and laws are in part based on the Ten Commandments. Do not judge Christians by this church. I loved their signs though, so not politically correct and colorful!!. In this case... "Gramps" who is indeed more or less the "founder" or "beginning" of this extreme, over the top Christian belief. Not even close to the truth, and sorry if I conveyed that somehow. I have witnessed it all over the planet, and I work with it every day (in England at the moment)...it is a re-enactment of abusive relationships, same dynamic...only difference is this one has spread its acceptability throughout the family and become 'larger' than the norm. Oh, by the way he doesn't hate America, but he probably hates the direction it is going and we will be punished if we turn our back on God!!! This should continue until his hateful brood realizes exactly what it is they do to other people's families. This was in part due to the fact that he hardly was in the movie...which of course he did on purpose. In Oʻahu for the summer, two siblings from Brooklyn connect with their Hawaiian heritage — and their family — on a daring quest for long-lost treasure. I think it was sex which she may have even encouraged, so infatuated is she with her father. By putting people down in these areas as harmless as this one may seem, it allows for worse things to come in. Sure would like to know what the "truths" are of what you speak, without quoting me anymore of your circular logic from your scriptures. what ever happened to " do not judge and you wont be" ?? So maybe there is some underlying issue. lawyer is the only high level proffession these familly members could ever dream to acheive because science or common sens or moral is required for any other... (compation, respect etc.). 3. What people need to make the world better is Acceptance, Inspiration and Respect! Romans 14:1-4. The problem is that you assert that we are some kind of "miracle". Once he is no longer around to directly influence them, the probability of that happening should improve (unless some i**** murders him and thereby makes a "martyr" of him). They are so far gone in their depravity that they will never be able to find their way back; they are just utterly, completely damned in their 'salvation'. Nice synopsis. We shouldn't judge each other. The Phelps clan is not unique there. I have just discovered this movie recently. What about the children who are put in harms way? or i could just ignore them and take comfort in the fact im most likely going to outlive the idiots. The programme follows as Theroux revisits the family at the core of the Westboro Baptist Church and observes how its members have changed since … Look at what he makes them do. 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? The British reporter soooo has a crush on the older daughter! I know that they want to uphold God's righteousness. Why are cults always headed by tyrants? But sticks and stones and all that jazz. 2. To know that there are people so brainwashed and secluded from the world they they truly believe this message is frightening. what century are you living in????? The only thing that can be done is to kill them all. LOL :D. one of most entertaining religious videos. and GUESS WHAT? Maybe one day, we can all just accept each other, forget hatred and love ourselves and one another before World War III breaks out over our raw animalistic nature and fear of unknown. @jeffI, I realize this is privileged information, but are you a top, In their own messed up world, they are right no matter how many times they are proven wrong, and no matter how people react, it's good and a proof that they are right. It is so clear, that the world would be a better place without this crazy fundamentalism of the Westboro baptist church. It is themselves they are disgusted at. That is sheer arrogance on your part. Yes, they have freedom of speech. Everyone is here for a reason these people are clearly here for the speading of hate *sigh*, well of im heading for hell listening to this i think im already there. Very handy, when law suits come up. (not that i know) Even so who are they to assume- they -above everyone know the mind of God. You seem very articulant in your speech,a bit to prideful for me though.You use proper english and come off as a respectful intulect even when you're trying to belittle someone. this is actually the real gospel what we hear fr joel osteen is fake and not biblical,,,though GOD SAYS HATE THE SIN NOT THE SINNER so I dont agree with their signs, but I agree with most of what they say about the world and GODS JUDGMENT. I was born and raised in the LDS church and my family and church teachers did the same to me, and I believed it was true up until a year or so ago once I moved out. But after seeing this, I can't help but feel sorry for all of them except for Fred Phelps, they got dragged into this by him, and can't help but stick to the indoctrination. Christ taught to love, not to hate. We become This is why I don't believe in a god. But this battle is our personal battles.. We shouldn't be judging others. The Bible says "Judge not, lest you be judged". this makes me so sick, and all i can note is how phelpse avoids questioning not even he believes his message or he would defend it. Hey, this family is authentic proof that genetic experiments on humans are taking place in the USA and have been going on for years. First of all, the children .... no need for words, it should be illegal for these psychotic adults to keep children. If you reject His ultimate love (Jesus) of course you are bound the other way. When you receive Christ, you don't stop sinning, BUT NOW your heart is desirous to please God, obeying His Commandments than pleasing your sinfulness. For every protester that shows up she donates 1,000 to various gay/lesbian foundations or aids research. They are all Lawyers! I just hope that this church falls apart once Fred dies. but if they did they cant do all of the protests on other countries otherwise theyll get arrested because america is they only country with freedom of speech I will not watch any other videos on this website if they let people talk over them. As Louis says "if they get others to hate them, then they feel they are doing the right thing". our life is hard enough... we need pple making our life better not saying weird hurtfull things like that...they'r a bunch of loony ppl wasting their time instead of enjoying the beauty of life >.<. In my religion, we don't really contradict people, tell them their wrong or fight with them. i don't understand. I pray peace, clear mind, wisdom, and humility. I pity them, because I doubt any of them, excluding the very youngest, can be saved from that monstrosity of a lifestyle... Again, other than the few very young ones, they still deserve to die, they were pushed into that lifestyle, and unless you want to be the one to torture them back into a normal mentality, they will be the next Phelps' on the news once that old bastard, and his daughter die. These people have been so brain washed. According to the 'Bible' God tells Moses and Aaron to go to the Midianites and kill all the men, then take the booty, the women and children back to their encampments, then to kill all the mothers (because they had sex), then to kill all the boys, and finally to take all the virgins as slaves: 13 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp. He lived to be 33, I believe, so that he could say that he had gone through the same things as all of us. It is accepted that children are vulnerable, impressionable, and do not hold views on certain things because they do not yet understand them. What?? But you are surely aware this is strictly forbidden by God as revealed to us in Ephesians 5:4 “Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.”, I regret to inform you that I’ve noticed some of your family and congregation members wear glasses. Like most organizations and companies, churches included when the head guy goes a fight for power takes place, a shift in motives and everything changes. I was framed I tell you!! Haven't you figured it out by now that Christian god works in mysterious ways? I don't expect an apology, since this IS a comment board, but there's something for you to either chew over or black out. They disrespect the dead by picketing their funerals. I try to be faithful and be a good Christian, but when there's people like this it really upsets me. Living my life doesn't mean stepping on/over others, I'm a nice enough bloke - prob. "[Matthew 10:34], "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." The only truth......sits at the corner of 22nd and Lemmington every Friday to hold naughty or nice court. But you must be calm, and show understanding. Seriously, just leave. Oh what will the outcome be? What these people preach seems to be the complete opposite: Fear this omnipotent force or suffer eternal damnation for being who you are. Let them make up their own minds when they grow up. I wonder how many people that commented here against these people support that idiot James Manning from Atlah church. If they hate living in America so much, why don't they just leave? God made these children. and sexual orientation is not subject to choice. As long as it is between consenting adult human beings... what are you afraid of? Louis Therroux is really good journalist! Very well said and is of great proof that not all Christians are like this family. But, all religions are bullshit, so why bother making a distinction, Somewhere out of the USA? My point is, all religious families raise their kids like this, and there isn't much anyone can do about it. By doing that can calculate the quantum probabilities for observing the universe. Who are they to tell us what God says or is saying? And chyng@te your lords, gods, jesus's etc: big time. don't laugh or cheer because someone has died for their country. I find it hilarious that these people preach that America is going to hell and that God hates America. was he rejected from the military at one point? I also noticed how attractive she was. They are taking the bible literally and not being apologetic's. Are you still on that "Noah's" kick? The one thing I have to wonder is if something happened to someone in their church, they wouldn't believe it is anything bad that they are teaching they will assume there is something wrong with that person. I agree, have said it before and will say it again, the religee,s only cherry pick what they want to hear, discounting all else, like the old testament does not even exist. And so he condemned sin in human flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. Yes, sin will be judged in God's timing, but we are called to love and to save those who are parishing, not to wish for their destruction and/or death. May god have mercy on their extremist souls. Thats like saying a janitor who does his job for a company, which produces weapons should be responsible for the wars which use the weapons of that company. .. They weren't given the choice of having God's free choice. We start to preach about what The truth is there's no real easy way to deal with them. hi vladko, am having problems downloading your videos. I guess we'll never know. Worst part is that the children are being brainwashed so hard that bubbles shoot out of their ears.. funny that when they die and realize they wasted their life believing in "god " and hating homosexual`s These people prove their world is a complete illusion because of their adherence to an indoctrinated view that (the Bible God's judgement) on humanity is something REAL and must be accepted without question. The "Jew Church" where "they worship the rectum"? show mercy to all that is less then, whether its in strength, knowledge , or in wealth. And as people, they seem to be spending their days obsessing about homosexuality. It seems as though GOD is for us. The reporter was out of his depth with everyone except the 6 year old, and that would have been a matter of time. 1. they don't see the good that the world has to offer because all of the world except the members of the there Church are ever kind to them. I'm not so sure about the Guiness book,but place for that sort of people is the mental hospital! They are just a bunch of ignorant More like the most hated family in all of the world. Your gods playing favorites as usual Hmmm? to restrict or incriminate people with different lifestyles. still too young to understand what the hell their yellin about. Fred Phelps is an old man who does not care what the Bible says but only in maintaining the avenues in which he can express his anger at the world. It is evident in what they say, how they say it, and how frequently they say it. While He was here, He spent time with those who needed him most - - this certainly did not make Him popular, Lord, but He was being obedient to your will. Rarely was Jesus harsh or strong-handed with "sinners", and ironically, it was always towards the religious self-righteous, and I cannot think of one time his anger was turned towards the "sinner" lost in sin. i think it might be cause its really really funny. 3. Most religee's don't even have a clue as to what they are talking about! We understand them and watch them fall or fly according to their own actions. It was Henry II who said in a speech, "What miserable drones and traitors have I nurtured and promoted in my household who let their lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born cleric!" The truth is that the bible is full of contradictions..in one section it says 'turn the other cheek' and in another 'put them to the sword' as religions also have conflicting doctrines. Israel's ULTIMATE favor is as a nation that has a destiny. i don't buy it. Threats against my life and my freedom are another matter, altogether: They are NO ONE! We also undertake many other activities for our LBGT community including writing articles and letters like the one you didn’t understand. Which, I’m sorry to point out, makes you a hater, not a lover. They smile and go on about how it was God's will to all sinners.....well did WBC know the people who have died? Now if there is no god...which there isn't....then evolution is true. wow!!!!! Hope you considere this simple message, God bless you Dear Friend. mabie guide them in a less hateful path in this reality called life? Synonyms of fulfill are carry out, accomplish. Meredith, so why should Canada be exempt? The religious stance on homosexuality does have a lot to do with the book of Leviticus as @Brennilthos64 has mentioned. Dominant! Home grown terrorism is always there. They talk about God's comming judgments as "awesome" and "exciting" and something to be glad about. My girlfriend actually watched and became so angry (because her brother is gay) that she is now trying to find the means of contacting this church. They claim to be devout Christians but all recognised Christian churches Love is the answer, God is Love. Those who are Jesus' brothers are those who followed his teachings and treated those as THEY would like to be treated. As an Independent, Fundamental Baptist, I have to say: THESE PEOPLE ARE NUTTERS! The Most Hated Family in America is a 2007 BBC documentary film written and presented by Louis Theroux about the family at the core of the Westboro Baptist Church. . In retaliation to this, the modern churches just keep on back-tracking after their claims are smashed, and speak of the need for having faith to be able to 'understand'. it the best science has to offer in its quest to find a cure for religion. In fact, it is fair to describe the WBC’s communications as propaganda, given the negative connotation of the word. Now I know that I dont have the references for these quotes Im not trying to be a religious scholar just can clearly see that these people just dont comprehend the world around them and how messed up thier views of how "god" wants them to live and condems others for how they do. Those that die with a pure heart towards God find His favor and those that do not, do not. When he dies, then she will fall apart, possibly even kill herself. god loves everyone but he will only show you kindness and love if you say to yourself that you love and believe in him.... that is petty. Not Jesus. "And many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord - didn't we do wonderful things in Your name'? If I remember correctly from the documentary, at least four of Fred's adult children have already had the good sense to leave the cult, despite his continuing presence. Were those cities judged by God and destroyed? I'm wondering if someone were to shoot the old man, kill him, would these people stop? The Most Hated Family in America is a TV documentary written and presented by the BBC's Louis Theroux about the family at the heart of the Westboro Baptist Church. You are a fool to worship the US military. Feet Eagar to Run to Evil: Going to places you know God isn’t in the middle of: TV, books, friends, parties, drugs, booze. thats fine with me. I hate judgemental people, especially those who cannot for the life of them back up their belief . I like to play with the idea that matter does not exist but that we have been conditionned to believe it does. It was important because he has children and grandchildren who have left that family and disavowed what he is doing for some time. As for: "thank god for 9/11"....? I called you a redneck because you act like a backwoods degenerate. Do you believe in "the rapture" goes hand in hand with your imaginary friend in the sky. The fact visa's aren't really just handed out to people of normal citizenship. NO CHRISTIAN smiles and laughs at someone bound for Hell. This is not the private issue you ignorantly think it is. They don't listen to anybody but themselves and their stuff without foundation. The most interesting character in this documentary is actually the journalist himself; you can see that he is uncertain of his own beliefs. You seem to want me to say that never happened. Finally, when I read your sentence "I think they make the message flamboyant to get the attention and it worked" my jaw hit the floor. What might be better questions to own them would be like "Do you eat pork?" He has unconditional love for Heavenly Father's children! theyre just trolling people And they wonder why people hate them???? That was my favourite part of that video, I lost count of the amount of times I hit replay. This is Manson-family potential. I think we all believe in what we believe and no one should have the right to hate someone just because they believe something different from them. On the end the young lady said it was "a service," and that people have treated thier kindness of telling them to repent with contemt. 54 And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?” And yes,America is doomed. If they wanted to go and help the people who are living than couldn't they go to a place that was highly populated instead? To HATE is MORE sin than ANY OTHER! GOD HATES YOU and FAGS EATS POOP were the best!XD I am a Christian, and my Bible teaches that anything not done out of love is a sin. Ok so I saw this documentary a few years back and also have seen others centered around these people and though i find them fascinating I cannot help but despare at how deluded and misguided a group of people can truely be. It's that simple. Just deeply heart sickened by it all. got that right i made some hot coffee to calm my self down and saw this comment and made my day. They should be performing PEACE keeping operations. I would think he would have found it more worthy to go after a scientologist. I am a 19 year old college student, and it pains me to think that there are people in this world who can preach so much hatred. They are preaching the exact opposite of their "faith". The Christian, and all religions are the scourge of the Earth I tell you. they shouldnt be allowed to pickit at funreals the law should stop this its disgusting. This is a cult who brainwashes children, puts children in direct way of harm for their own instant gratification and picks and chooses which part of the bible they want to abide by. They are a group who teach hate and it is horrible they are teaching their children to do the same. in the bible it says we are to be friendly to others and hes mean jackass really. There is a lot more to the story, and I wish Loui would have been more prepared to ask the right kind of questions. I have a son, and i'm not married. Louis also meets 'Prussian Blue' an American white-nationalist preteen musical sibling duo. Adultery was committed by Shirley Phelps who has a child out of wedlock. In fact, you displayed far more respect than the pornographer Larry Flint. ", He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.". And I will say to them, Depart from my presence, into eternal damnation - for I never knew you.". People should have signs that say, "Thank God For Dead Westboro Baptists!" I mean like Big Gay Al, SOOO gay, just to piss them off. Did you see that woman clutch her baby tightly after he said that....... funny as hell. Happiness is the way, it's not something you chase after. 1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death.3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful humanity to be a sin offering. At the heart of the documentary is the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC), headed by Fred Phelps and based in Topeka, Kansas. Best of luck to the cute, college girl and hopefully she can make it out; she definitely looks like she can piece together (albeit slowly) a healthy lifestyle. Entire books have been written on the subjects you mentioned, Mr. Razor, but I will be breif: Sin has been, is now, and surely will be judged according to God's most highest standards. And he never answered anyway. Their is an old saying YOU CAN NOT FIX STUPID.. Dear Tim, Thanks for asking. FOX News called her sick. . I admire how headstrong the whole family is. Freedom from speech we call it.... Of course it is important for everybody to have a voice, but why are you all so passionate for people to be allowed to shove it the face of everybody else. "Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. " When it is thought to be wrong (although that can change) it dissapears in a garbage of hypothesis and when it is thought to be right it wins big awards, respect, lots of money, support and it changes the direction of every scientist towards a new goal. Or why do you look down on your brother? Try watching and LEARNING what the Westboro Baptist Church believes and the reasons behind their faith. i am no more special or important than anything else that exists. "I'm sorry to point out" God did send "A Lying spirit" to deceive the false seers of Israel and the corrupt Kings and politicians. I think somewhere in the bible it states that even the smallest sin is no greater than the largest sin. I guess it is because she was raped by her father, anally. They would never marry or want kids, they state, but that means that they will not or very little reproduce. And the Steve Drain guy, I have no idea how he was converted, he must just be the stupidest person to ever live. After all honestly watching it a 2nd time I do feel empathy for these people especially the kids and the college daughter who you can tell sooooo wants out, but is scared to take that step and leave. It's only thru accepting the gift of salvation and a relationship with God thru Christ that we receive the mercy then grace of God. That is why He left His son Jesus Christ hang from the cross. No wonder nobody gets the message. I’m using inviolate here as a synonym for sacred meaning; concerned with religion or religious purposes; "sacred texts"; "sacred rites"; "sacred music.” The connotative meaning here is; not to be questioned. Intrestingly 1 million americans are in the armed forces willing to die for their country, but hwo many americans would die for their religion? Christianity is supposed to be the belief and practice of peace, stewardship, and civility. Surely you can see the numerous faults in your logic; either God created LGBT people or he made a mistake. 4. Goodnight. I guess it's better to be slut and sleep around and have abortions. Wouldn't the Bible be better written by a woman controlled to a certain extent by the Holy Spirit. That is a lie. Death isn't beautiful and life after death isn't fun. 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